Materialists consider Vrindavana-dhama an unclean city because there are many monkeys and dogs there, and along the bank of the Yamuna there is refuse. Some time ago, a materialistic man asked me, "Why are you living in Vrindavana? Why have you selected such a dirty place to live after retiring?"" Such a person cannot understand that the earthly Vrindavana-dhama is always a representation of the original Vrindavana-dhama. Consequently Vrindavana-dhama is as worshipable as Lord Krishna. Aradhyo bhagavan vrajesa-tanayas tad-dhama vrndavanam: according to Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s philosophy, Lord Sri Krishna and His abode, Vrindavana, are equally worshipable. Sometimes materialistic people who have no spiritual understanding go to Vrindavana as tourists. One who goes to Vrindavana with such materialistic vision cannot derive any spiritual benefit. Such a person is not convinced that Krishna and Vrindavana are identical. Since they are identical, Vrindavana is as worshipable as Lord Krishna. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's vision (mora-mana—vrindavana) is different from the vision of an ordinary materialistic person.